
This article originally appeared in the January/February 2011 issue.ย
Since she was a kid, she knew she was an artist, and a serious one, willing to go the extra mile. As early as 11, she approached her own art with a remarkable singularity of purpose that has persisted ever since. โWhen I was a kid, I wanted to write a poem about Simรณn Bolรญvar,โ says Patti Smith. โI went to the library and read everything I could. I wrote copious notes. I had 40 pages of notes just to write a small poem.โ Decades later, the process persists. She spent months reading every book she could find about Ho Chi Minh before spontaneously improvising โGung Ho.โ She relies on her ability to shamanistically channel songs and poems, but never blindly; she deepens her well with information before delving into it.
Of course, sheโs more than a songwriter. Sheโs an artist who recognizes that art neednโt be restricted to any one means of expression. Like her great friend, the late photographer Robert Mapplethorpe, about whom she wrote the beautiful memoir, Just Kids, sheโs always been devoted to making art itself โ whether a poem, a memoir, a novel, a record, a series of drawings, a play (she wrote Cowboy Mouth with Sam Shepard), or a song. As a child, art for her was both a refuge and a means of escape from the monotony of the everyday world. โI did not want to be trapped,โ she says. โI grew up in the โ50s, when the girls wore really bright red lipstick and nail polish, and they smelled like Eau de Paris. Their world just didnโt attract me. I hid in the world of the artist: first the 19th-century artists, then the Beats. And Peter Pan.โ
Unlike Mapplethorpe, however, fame was never a goal. When she made her debut album Horses, which remains the most visceral fusion of poetry and rock ever recorded, she never intended to be a rock star, and was happy to return to her job at the bookstore, writing poems and creating drawings. But she also recognized the unchained potential of rock and roll to speak not just to an assorted few at a coffee-house poetry reading, but to 40,000 people or more in an arena, all united by song. Though she certainly never left poetry behind (sheโs written 12 volumes of published poetry, and several more books of poetry and memoir that are unpublished), she embraced the electric promise of speaking to the whole world. โEven now, itโs an opportunity to have a universal voice,โ she says, โbecause everybody, all over the world, loves rock and roll. Itโs the new universal language. Jimi Hendrix knew that. The Rolling Stones knew that. We knew that. People of the future will know that. What they do with it is up to them.โ
How is writing poems different from writing songs?
Poetry is a solitary process. One does not write poetry for the masses. Poetry is a self-involved, lofty pursuit. Songs are for the people. When Iโm writing a song, I imagine performing it. I imagine giving it. Itโs a different aspect of communication. Itโs for the people.
We always write a certain amount of poetry for the masses. When Allen Ginsberg wrote โHowl,โ he didnโt write it for himself. He wrote it to speak out. To make a move, to wake people up. I think rock and roll, as our cultural voice, took that energy and made it even more accessible.
When Iโm sitting down to write a poem, Iโm not thinking of anyone. Iโm not thinking about how it will be received. Iโm not thinking it will make people happy or it will inspire them. Iโm in a whole other world. A world of complete solitude. But when Iโm writing a song, I imagine performing it. I imagine giving it. Itโs a different aspect of communication. Itโs for the people.
I write songs when Iโm by myself, like walking along the beach, and a song comes in my head. Or I wake up from a dream, like with โBlakean Year.โ I often write songs out of dreams, and take them to my musicians to help me. Sometimes I write melodies that are too complex and I canโt find them on the guitar, because I only know about eight chords. So I take them to Lenny [Kaye] or [bassist] Tony [Shanahan] and they transcribe them into a song.
โFree Moneyโ came to me walking down St. Markโs at three in the morning. It was pre-dawn, but it was so light in New York City, and it came to me and I sang it to Lenny. He structured it and found the proper chords, and we made a song. It was one of our earliest songs.
Other songs, they just come in my head and I sing them out loud, and the band finds the place, and they adjust it. For myself, the simpler format the better. โGandhiโ is nine minutes on one chord. Itโs an improvisation. โRadio Baghdadโ was completely improvised. I didnโt know the lyrics, but I knew I wanted to speak out against the invasion of Iraq. Being a mother, I freely entered into the mother consciousness of the mothers of Baghdad who were trying to comfort their children as they were being bombed. So these lyrics that come to me are self-perpetuated.
Itโs miraculous that you can spontaneously come up with such amazing work.
Itโs easier for me than to sit and write verse-chorus. Writing lyrics, sometimes, is torturous. Because I make them too complicated, and sometimes burden a song with complicated language. But itโs just how I work. So, for me, itโs freedom just to go and focus myself and see where my horse takes me.
Are there times you didnโt get there?
I have never been unsuccessful.
How do you explain that?
Itโs a channeling. Burroughs always called it a shamanistic gift. Sometimes I feel I am channeling someone else. Part of it is experience from performing, and understanding that as a performer one has a mission, like Coltrane, to take your solo out to talk to God, or whoever you talk to, but you must return. So it has structure.
Thatโs one way that I write. Others take quite a bit of labor. Often the simplest song is the hardest to write. โFrederickโ was very hard to write. Because in its simplicity, I also wanted it to be perfect.
Yes. And when people hear them, they think they came out perfectly. But to get to that place is a lot of work?
Yes, a lot of work. But I find, in the past decade, I donโt struggle with lyrics as much as I did in the โ70s. I think thatโs partially because, you know, I came out of nowhere. I wasnโt a songwriter. A lot of Horses was based on poems that I had written. For instance, โJesus died for somebodyโs sins but not mineโ came from a poem I wrote when I was 20. I had written it perhaps in โ69 and we recorded it in โ75. โRedondo Beachโ I wrote in 1971 as a poem. But I struggled.
I always thought when we did Horses I would do a record — and I was really honored to do the record — but then Iโd go back to work, working in a book store, writing poems or doing my drawings. It didnโt occur to me that Iโd be doing more records. Because I felt like I had said what I had to say. Horses was based on five years of work and performing and thinking about things, and suddenly when we had another record I found it very, very difficult because I wasnโt skilled in writing songs. And Horses was such an organic process. So I was learning as I went along.
But now I understand the songwriting process and itโs not so difficult. I mean, it is difficult but itโs not as difficult as it was. I remember writing the lyrics to the songs on Radio Ethiopia. At that time I had performed so much I felt a loss of language and just got very involved with playing electric guitar and making sonicscapes. I was much happier playing feedback than I was in spewing language. But the language came back.
I had always assumed — wrongly, I see — that your poetry and songwriting were intertwined. That youโd write a poem that would spark a song, and maybe vice-versa.
Well, that can happen. Anything can happen. I have started poems that seemed best-served as a song. But thatโs just one of those things that happened totally organically. It would be false to say everything is black and white, itโs either one or the other. Itโs just that my process is different. My mindset is different. And Iโve destroyed many poems [laughs]. Just lost the thread on a poem and then went back to them and found that it could be the germ of something else. But the initial process is a different process.
Why is songwriting sometimes torturous?
Because I had so much responsibility to others. If I was writing lyrics to someoneโs music, I had responsibility to that musician. I had to project beyond myself and beyond my world out into the greater world. Allen Ginsberg told me, โIf you have trouble writing, just write what you meanโ [laughs]. And thatโs a good lesson when youโre trying to write a song.
As an artist who has expressed yourself in so many ways, how is it to have written songs which reach so many more people who might never read poetry or books?
I think of my work as relatively obscure. When you look at a poet like Jim Morrison, who is able to write very complex lyrics like โThe Waspโ but also write โHello, I Love You,โ this to me is a real gift, to be able to have a span like that.
With my own work, when I wrote the lyrics for Horses, I had a particular body of people who I was speaking to, and that was the people like myself, who I felt were disenfranchised. The more maverick person. I wasnโt really addressing the masses. I didnโt even think I had anything of interest to share with the masses. But I felt that I had something to share with people like myself. So my early work was really written to bridge poetry and rock and roll, and to communicate, as I said, with the disenfranchised person. And I think in that way it was successful. But in the โ80s, when I stopped performing and I got married and had a family, I became more empathetic to social issues and the humanist point of view. And I think my lyrics had changed. I was speaking to a larger body of people. As a mother, you want to speak to everyone. Because everyone is potentially a son or daughter. So my goal shifted. A lot of that came from my husband, Fred โSonicโ Smith, who was very political and very concerned with the human condition. So a song like โPeople Have The Powerโ came from Fred. It was Fredโs concept. Even though I wrote the lyrics, he wrote the title, and the concept was his, because he wanted to address all people. So I would say there has definitely been a shift in who I am speaking to, at least in my mind.
That shift seems to have come with the Wave album, with a song like โDancing Barefoot.โ
โDancing Barefootโ begins the shift. That album, Wave, came from falling in love. And opening up my perspective. Wave addressed the fact that I was here, I did my work, I hopefully contributed. And I found somebody who I loved, and now I was embarking on a new life. So, youโre right, itโs really the album Wave which starts that shift.
It took me a while to understand you have license to have abstraction in a lyric. As a kid, I loved dancing. Itโs very funny I should wind up a songwriter and have to write lyrics. Because as a kid I wasnโt so involved with the lyrics, I just loved to dance. Hearing โGimme Shelter,โ I didnโt really break down what the song was about, I just loved to dance to it. Talking about songwriting is complicated โcause thereโs so many kinds of songs. And so I might seem like Iโm contradicting myself, but Iโm not. When I wrote โFrederick,โ I tried to write a song that everybody loved and everybody danced to. It was consciously written to be a dance song. When I wrote โRadio Baghdad,โ that was the last thing on my mind. For me, that has always been such a conflict because I love natural songs. I love that song โGet In The Groove.โ [Sings] โHey, get in the groove.โ I mean, whatโs that about? Itโs such a great little song to dance to. It doesnโt mean to say much of anything.
Which is a great thing about songs, that they hit us on different levels at once — our hearts and minds and bodies.
Yeah. And I think thatโs why songwriting, to me, has been such a mystery, and still something that I havenโt completely cracked. How a poet — going back to Jim Morrison — could write such complex lyrics and complex poems and then say, โHello, I love you, let me jump in your game.โ
Your biggest hit ever was one you wrote with Bruce Springsteen, โBecause The Night.โ How did that come together?
I got a tape of it, everything completely produced, and the chorus was done. He needed words for the verses, which were mumbled. I listened to it. I sat up with it all night writing a song for Fred, who was supposed to call me from Detroit. And Iโm the kind of girl who waits for the call. I listened to it over and over, trying to distract myself from waiting for Fred. And thatโs why in the lyric it says, โHave I doubt when Iโm alone/ love is a ring, a telephone.โ
Iโve always wanted to write a song that everyone could love. Thatโs the one thing that I feel I havenโt achieved. Writing a song that when you hear it, everybody is happy. When weโre in Italy and we break into โBecause The Nightโ and there are 20,000 people singing, it just brings me to tears. So I know that people must experience a certain amount of joy. When it comes down to it, I might write poetry for myself or poetry for the gods of poetry. But I write a song for the people.
