
Lilly Hiattโs forthcoming album Trinity Lane blends the Nashville-based artist’s honest lyricism with her driving roots-rock sound. And while the album paints a portrait of struggle and self-discovery, Hiatt is a person of lightheartedness and disarming warmth,ย staying long after the allotted interview time to discuss the experience of being a woman in the music industry and how she’s managed to secretly use her roommateโs half-and-half all year. She also spoke with us about writing the new record, the idiosyncrasies of East Nashville, and finding strength in her family. Read the conversation and check out Hiatt’s new single “Everything I Had” below.
Trinity Lane is the name of the street you live on in East Nashville, and it appears in theย video for the albumโs title track.ย How has living in Nashville informed your growth as an artist?
I definitely keep motivated here because theyโre so many different types of creative folks, and that always keeps me on my toes. Iโm from here so Iโve seen it change a lot, but with that change has come a lot of open doors too โt hereโs been all kinds of music in and out of this town, so itโs expanded beyond the โCountry Music USA” thing at this point. And you know, itโs just in the air. I like East Nashville because Iโm sure I could ask any of the folks in there [points to a coffeeshop] and theyโd say, โOh yeah, Iโm working on a record,โ or โOh yeah, Iโm in a bandโ. Thatโs neat to be around. You kind of forget it when youโre here because youโre like โYeah, everybody plays music,โ but then anywhere else you go realize that thatโs a really rare thing. Everyoneโs kind of working on a dream here and encouraging people to dream here.
Your record seems to confront a great deal of pain from your past โ covering loss, heartbreak, addiction, and more. What was it like to tackle those types of subjects in your songs?
I think that songwriting is my safe haven for all the things Iโm processing in my mind, so itโs not really difficult putting that into the songs. Itโs very cathartic to have a place for all that stuff. I felt so lonely when I was writing these songs, so that was a lift for me. I didnโt feel like going out, I didnโt feel like really participating in a lot of things when I was writing these songs. I felt like I was processing, and so sometimes I have to pull back when Iโm doing that.
You talk about pulling back during the songwriting process, and I read recently that you also โleaned into your familyโ at times while working on the album. Can you elaborate on that?
I think at the end of the day the people who I feel like understand and accept me most for who I am, with all my oddities, are my family. Weโre a really quirky and sensitive bunch of people and weโre different from one another, but we love each other a lot. And I felt like those were some of the only people who I wanted to be around because I was just so sensitive during that time of writing the songs. I was so sensitive I almost felt like โAm I too sensitive to participate in the world?โ You know? And I know thatโs an internal thing and you get over it, but I felt safe being that way around them. They werenโt going to judge me.
You started playing music with the band Shake Go Home in your twenties. Do you think your songwriting process has changed from then to now?
Totally, and itโs really funny because the other day I found an old EP of ours and I was like โI’m just going to pop this inโ. I couldnโt listen very long โ I hadnโt figured out my voice yet, so it was kind of painful for me to listen to it. [At the time] I was in college and I was reading a lot, so I think a lot of my writing was trying to be very smart and literate. I was in a lot of poetry classes in college and stuff like that, so it was very frilly writing. And I donโt think at that point in my life I was able to tap into the world via an emotional lens as deeply. I was just a college kid, so everything was kind of dramatic, trying to be poetic. That being said, though, when I was listening I did think that there was some good stuff in there โ there was some fun imagery! But I feel like along the way the writing got a little more straightforward and less abstract. I was trying really hard to be poetic [laughs].
Are you interested in any other kinds of writing?
A lot of times when Iโm feeling kind of overloaded with thoughts, Iโll just free write or journal-entry write. And thatโs really helpful to me to sort through stuff in my brain. I used to write other things, like I used to write little stories and stuff. I havenโt done that in a long time and I think about that sometimes and how fun it would be to tap back into that. But I donโt know, my favorite thing to write is songs so I think, eh, Iโll probably just stick to that. But who knows? I would love to be able to review records, but you canโt as an artist and be honest because you burn a lot of bridges, you know what I mean? That would be another dream job of mine though because I feel like I would be good at it [laughs].
Do any of those old journal entries ever feature in your songwriting?
Sometimes there will be little lines that may stand out, or kind of concepts, but usually I donโt hang onto something Iโve written in the past and put it in something else. I feel like when Iโm writing a song it kind of informs itself. Like it starts to get its own life. When I’m really tapped in I kind of feel like Iโm not even in the driver’s seat anymore, like itโs just happening.
That sounds like an awesome feeling.
It is an awesome feeling, and itโs hard to get there because it takes a quiet mind. My friend said something really cool last night: โWhen you have a quiet mind thereโs room for creativityโ. So true!
You went with Michael Trent of Shovels & Rope to his South Carolina studio to record the album. Was that a decision that came out of a “quiet mind?”
Yeah, Michael and I talked a good amount before I went up there and I kind of felt it out for a little while thinking if it was the right idea, simply because I love Nashville and itโs my home and I had never made a record outside of Nashville. A little part of me at first was like, โNo I want to do everything in East Nashville and keep it real local, because this is where I wrote all the songs and this is where it happenedโ. But once we talked and I realized how awesome he was and how quickly he taps into things โ and then to have some geography to breathe new life and refresh things โ I thought it would just be really good. And it was.
How did you hook up with Michael in the first place?
Kim Buie from New West, whoโs been a really big champion and just supportive and great, she suggested it. I didnโt even know Michael produced things or that he produced their albums. But she was like โHey, have you ever thought of him? Heโs really cool.โ I already knew him โ not well โ but I already knew him and Carrie and knew they were cool people, so that got the bug in my ear. And then we started chatting and I realized that we were on the same page. He asked me what kind of record I wanted to make and I had to think about it. I was sending him all these really sad songs โ songs that ended up on the album โ but songs that were really more acoustic slow-demos. But I said, โI want to make a rock record,โ and he said, โI love rock and roll!โ And that was our email, so I knew he could get on board with that. I like to work with people who are just naturally on the same page, so then theyโre free to do their thing and Iโm free to do mine. And I donโt have to micromanage everybodyโs role because I donโt like to do that, you know? It limits things in my opinion. So thatโs why we had a few conversations before we went out there and I was able to realize, โOh yeah, you get itโ.
Now that the record is complete, how do you think the songs will translate in a live setting?
Weโve had some stuff this summer and we wonโt get really busy for about another month, but thatโs a whole other ballgame, the live show. On the album thereโs always the bells and whistles โ like I canโt afford to bring a keyboard player out with me right now โ so I think live weโre like a guitar band. Itโll be about figuring out how to be rockinโ but maintain dynamic. It just takes time and a little finesse, you know? Weโre not for sure, but weโll just sink our teeth into it as we go. “David Bowie”ย is really fun to play live. It feels good to play and we all get really excited to play it because itโs sludgy and grungy.ย
As Lilly is getting ready to leave, I mention an interview she did with a young girl named Piper.ย
Oh my god, that kid. It was a couple of years ago, but that kid killed me. She is so sweet. Sheโs such a little go-getter, too. Her older sister started it โ kids interview bands with their dad โ and then her older sister kind of came of age and was like โEh, Iโm a pre-teen now,โ so it got passed down to Piper. Sheโs so matter-of-fact. I tried to ask her some questions during the interview but she just kept right on track. I love kids because they just donโt have any angle yet. Itโs such an unfiltered perspective so itโs so honest, you know? Just being yourself. Her dadโs really cool too. Heโs a music guy, and I think itโs really sweet when dads bond with their daughters via music. My dad and I listened to a lot of music together, and itโs just cool to see dads bond with their girls. Because, you know … it makes a big difference.
Did your dad influence your path to where you are now, in the songs you write or music you enjoy?
Oh totally, heโs probably the biggest influence, you know? His music is like the soundtrack to my life. I love my dad, and Iโve always really looked up to him โ he didnโt get caught up in all the like … you know, show business can be dark. And you gotta really keep yourself grounded not to submit not to all those allurements of the glamorous lifestyle of being a musician. Heโs an honest, good guy, and I admire that.
